warriors
"The night was torn with flames, and the red silhouettes of the volcanoes played across the barren landscape of the Ring. The shifting shadows of the night were like a scrim. On the other side, something was waiting for him, if he could only see it. A fate? A destiny only dimly perceived? Faolan sprang high, higher than he'd ever jumped before. The draft was hot, but he did not feel its heat. What he felt was cold, icy cold. I am in a ring of fire, but I feel ice."
Faolan, Watch Wolf

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Excuse me?

Vec, I don't even know where to begin. Seriously. It seems you've already made up your mind that I did that, but just so that we are abundantly clear: no, I did not write that, and I'm honestly hurt that you'd assume I did. This goes way beyond a temporary block now, I walked away and came back when I thought I was in a better headspace. That's all. Why would I go out of my way to do something that childish? I took a glance at the profile you linked and... yeah. That doesn't even match my age. Or pronouns. Or age?

I will be speaking with Fandom support about this. I did with the initial block because I was confused and hurt, but at this point, I genuinely do not feel comfortable interacting with the local staff team on this wiki now that I've been accused of... Whatever that mess is. Obviously that is unavoidable to a point, but I will ask that I am not contacted on any other wiki aside from this one and Community Central should the need arise. Thank you.

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Re: Branch

Hi Vec, are Tanooooki and Ghost the same person? Looking at the image history, I think Ghost attempted the image but then Tanooki took over. - Fox Fus Ro Dah! 16:35,9/14/2025

OA claim

hey vec! do you mind if i claim gravelnose's apprentice image for the rush since the old app was mine? madie it's a good day! 06:40, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

re: PCA

Thank you!!!! 🌊•Dusk•🌊 19:44, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Rush Images

Regarding the rush images: I know that it says we can claim two images, one from SF and one rush image, but I was wondering if we could also claim two rush images at a time? ~ ♡ Nightclaw ♡ is unstable ⭐ 14:27, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Ok, thank you :) ~ ♡ Nightclaw ♡ is unstable ⭐ 17:03, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Re: PCA

Thanks! This archievement was something I was waiting a lot for, and without your help (and that of a few others, of course), it would have been much harder to archieve! But well, the only question I have for now is... How do you mess with tabbies? I have been working on Hawkfrost, but everything seems fine until I add the stripes ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 16:43, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much! ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 17:16, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Re:

Sorry! Won't happen again, I was not paying attention Vulture (Life finds a way) 🪶 17:22, 23 september 2025 (UTC)

Another Question About the Rush

I'm so sorry to keep bothering you about the rush, but I was wondering if, with images like Mistmouse's alt queen where there's only one image in the set, I can make a new pattern or if I have to follow the pattern Ghost made ~ ♡ Nightclaw ♡ is unstable

Re. Dappletuft/Dapplenose

So I was reading Dappletuft’s page and saw him being referred to as Dapplenose at one point. I don’t have copies of TBC to refer to so I don’t know if this is vandalism or a mistake in the books or a mistake made by an editor. BlueberriesandWaffles (talk) 09:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi

A small question: how do you reserve a tweak? I suppose a tweak will sooner or later come in due to mistakes and stuff, but I think that when OAs dissapear, then yu can just reserve a tweak, right? If you can, how does that work? ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 22:21, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks!!! ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 22:27, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Thank you for the awards Vec!! <3 Sunpath The silent moon 14:57, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Darkstripe's birth

Hello! The Forgotten Warrior is going to be translated to Spanish next week, so I'm running through everything necessary to update the Spanish Wiki. While checking out the events timeline, there's a couple things that I don't quite understand.

Darkstripe and his siblings are shown to be born in leaf-fall for Year 4, at the same time as Willowshine. The reference says that this is confirmed by Onestar's Confession, but how can this be possible, if the books that were concurrent with this season were Midnight, Moonrise and Dawn? At this time, not only was Darkstripe already born, but he was well into being a senior warrior.

The allegiances for The Last Hope show Cherrykit and Molekit still being kits, but they had been apprenticed in the previous book. This was already mentioned in the discussion over ten years ago, but it didn't come to a conclusion. I assumed the wiki had that mistake because this is how it was written in the book (as in, the Erins missed it). But if this is the case, isn't the page supposed to reference the error at the bottom? Similar to the allegiances of The Forgotten Warrior, which mention two missing WindClan apprentices.

Added twenty minutes after I sent this message: I've also seen Ivytail (ShC) in the events timeline, and she's marked as dead in Newleaf 5, though she doesn't appear in ShadowClan's ranks until the Power of Three arc. Is there something I'm missing or is this not supposed to happen?

Editing a third time because I meant Darkstripe, not Darktail omg

--Some weirdo called Elliot (talk) 11:19, 20 October 2025 (UTC) Marinuki2, October 20, 2025, 13:18 CEST

Thank you! I do indeed know who Darktail is, but I'm more used to the older books, so I read Darktail and I thought "That's Tigerclaw's henchman" lol.

By the way, I appreciate this wiki's information so much. I've been working on the Spanish Wiki quite a lot, and I swear on StarClan that we would have nothing to do if not for this wiki to check absolutely everything. I'm especially fond of the Events timeline page, and I'm so grateful that everything's been so carefully checked. Thank you for all you do for this community! I'm sure that Conrad Mason and Clarissa Hutton will be as grateful as I am when they're checking things.

--Some weirdo called Elliot (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

can't edit my old user?

hi vec! it's Flurry here and I changed accounts so i'm trying to write that I moved on my old user page and delete everything else on the page. but it isn't letting me save it? Wynter❄️

thank you! Wynter❄️ 17:57, October 20th, 2025

Awards

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Congrats! Here's to another 10 years. <3 KARMEN 06:07, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi

A small question: How does grading work for the different projects? I mean those planned/started/bronze/silver/gold stuff on character talk pages ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 17:28, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! I have spying other proyects, and have seen articles are written, nominated, and voted, but I think PCA is not the case. I think it has to do with the Chararts that are missing, and those who are approved, right? ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 17:36, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Old userpage links

Hello Vec! I've noticed that a lot of links on old userpages either go nowhere or lead to new (sometimes rather inappropriate...) domains. Should I remove the link entirely or replace it with an archived version of the original page (when it exists)? Onthewallawizardscuttles (talk) 09:50, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

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The page I'm thinking of in particular is this one, which had a link to a role-playing site that now redirects to some sort of pornography (I've removed it for now, just in case). The original site is on the Wayback Machine, so theoretically it could be replaced instead of removed. I'll try to find some other examples as well. Onthewallawizardscuttles (talk) 14:35, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Re: sharing PC noom

Aw, that's sweet of you to ask! I'd love to share the nomination with you :D KARMEN 15:07, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Wait...

So... What happened in this vote affected existing alts? Means some images such as my first will be left unused??? ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 15:40, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Books

Hi! Sorry to bother you (and idk who else to reach out to about this), but TPB3's spoiler template still says 'upcoming' when it should be recently released. Might be a bit late to say that now (oops), but yeahh EbonyHeart212 (talk) 21:08, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Senior warriors

Hello again, Vec! Sorry that I'm asking a lot lately, but I'm suddenly dedicated to being more thorough with the information I add, so I need to ask very frequently hehe. I've noticed that the wiki has specific points at which warriors are considered senior warriors. I don't doubt that this information exists and that we've referenced it correctly, but I'm confused with how that information could be phrased within the books. For example, Berrynose's litter are consideredsenior warriors as of Lost Stars, page 200, which is Chapter 18. In the summary for chapter 18, the word "senior" isn't mentioned (but at least one of those cats is), so I don't know if it was explicitly said that they're senior warriors or if their place in patrols is what makes them senior warriors.

Like I don't know, at the beginning of the series (I'm rereading everything, so I can't remember the big details for the new books), patrols include two warriors and an apprentice. Maybe the considered senior warriors are always the oldest out of those two? Or is it necessary for it to be explicitly said "This cat is a senior warrior" (and therefore their littermates as well) for us to be able to reference it?

I know my explanation is a mess because I don't even understand what I want to say myself ;P I don't mean to question the wiki's ways, I just haven't often seen the word "senior warrior" be assigned to specific cats in the mot recent books so I don't know what evidence is enough. Thanks for being an all-knowing cat boss, Vec! ^^

Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk)

re: Senior warriors

Oh yeah, that's true! I'll make sure to modify my signature right now.

I referred to Berrynose's litter. All of them are confirmed to be senior warriors in Lost Stars. I understand that it has been specifically quoted in the books, and there isn't anywhere where we can see who is considered a senior warrior or not. I supposed that it was also related to age, and therefore if one cat is confirmed to be a senior warriors, all warriors older than them are also considered seniors. This isn'tthe safest bet though, so it makes sense that we're doing it this way.

Also, I'm currently checking out the family tree map that Brutty has kindly modified very recently. So from what I understand, the cat icons shown there are the ones in the official family tree. Isn't it a bit weird that Plumwillow is shown to have no parents when we know she's Waspwhisker and Fallowfern's kit (together with three others)? Did they just forget that? Are there many mistakes like these or something? It just looks so weird to me, because we do know that Fernstripe's kits are already there (weren't they born in Hidden Moon?). How reliable is the family tree, then?

Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk)

Oh, I see what you mean now! Yeah, I understood. What I meant with Berrynose's litter was Berrynose's littermates. I see how that could be understood as his kits. I find that often I say "Mousewhisker and Hazeltail" and people don't know who they are lol. Thanks, Vec! Writing that down. :)

Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk)

Yep! I understand now. Thank you! :D

Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk)

Jacques and Susan

Hello! I once again come with two more questions. Were Jacques and Susan (kittypets that kill Talonpaw in Twilight) mentioned by name from the beginning? Secrets of the Clans mentions that they're mentioned by name there for the first time, but does this mean that their names aren't mentioned until later on. Is Vision of Shadows the first time, or is it Twilight? I'll have to do something about this at the Spanish Wiki.

One other thing. I have seen some allegiances include "It should be noted that in this volume only ThunderClan apprentices were given a section to themselves" in the clans. What is our policy on this? (I assume it's not very strongly enforced). Do we include them only if said Clan has an apprentice? I've found it under WindClan when there aren't any apprentices, but in other books it isn't added. I thought I could edit it if I found it to be inconsistent, but I don't know what the rule is.

Thanks a lot!

Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk)

Hi

I have four pixels approved. If I'm not mistaken, should I now have the rank of warrior or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlyMoss26188351 (talkcontribs)

What Happens If There's Very Unclear / Conflicting Information?

Hi. I had this question for a while and always wondered, how would pages be handled if the books themselves were contradictory? If a cat got introduced once as a male, then later as a female, would the later version hold true, even with the Erins' history of swapping genders like there's no tomorrow? Or, if characters were evenly described with the wrong eye color, or with wrong backstories? Is there a rule that dictates what to do in these situations?

Thanks!

~wolfburrito95 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfburrito95 (talkcontribs)

Wait, it is your birthday???

If that's the case, happy birthday! I hope you enjoy your day. ¬ Yuki😹 Failures are not defeats, failures are opportunities to learn 16:54, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

happy bday

have fun being old :) Hana 𖹭 23:48, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Family pages

Hello again, Vec! I've noticed a couple things about family pages that I don't understand. I can't believe how y'all manage to keep up with them without making any mistakes! I found Lionheart's page, and I found that Tawnypelt was Lionheart's niece, therefore Dawnpelt and Tigerheart were his grandniece and nephew. Dawnpelt's kits were established as Lionheart's great-grandnieces and nephews, but since this wasn't the case for Tigerheart's kits I just assumed that it made no sense since those were already related closer to him through Dovewing. So from what I understand, we don't add relationships twice, right? We just take the closest relationship

But then, I've looked at Longtail's family page. Ivypool and Dovewing are shown as his half-grandnieces AND half-great-grandnieces, since they're related to Longtail from both their parents. But then, can they be featured twice? Is there a rule of thumb, or a tutorial or a guide of style that you've made for these pages, so I can understand how this works? In what cases are family relations included in every possible way, and in which are they included in only the simplest connection? I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself, trying to make sense of this in English is complicated :P

Thanks!

Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk) December 6th, 2025. 12:59 Wiki time

re: Ooo yay I feel good that I caught that! I'm copying down thinks on a Google Spreadsheet because family trees are amazing :) I'll make sure to change these things if I see one again. Thanks for the clarification! Mario Soriano Only the curious have something to find <3 (talk) December 6th, 2025. 22:00

Eeeeee

Thank you Vec!! I'm super grateful <3 Sunpath The silent moon 18:21, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

HIIII

I have a question, I have an ambitious idea for a charart contest: charts, BUT ON PAPER. I just wonder if such idea was possible in the wiki? ¬ Cat.jpg😹 どんなに むねが いたくても そばに いるの つないだ てを はなさないから 21:12, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! ¬ Cat.jpg😹 どんなに むねが いたくても そばに いるの つないだ てを はなさないから 00:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)


sup

hey Vec, can you help me delete the file AmazingCharlie.personal.jpg please? Thank you so much and have a good day!

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Hello!

Hello there! I was wondering if you could change the file type of my personal image? My personal image is File:Froggyfan02.personal.jpeg and I would like it to be a PNG file instead. Thanks!

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Ok! Thats fine

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Username report (?)

unsure if this is something I report, but this user has a word in their username that isn't wiki-appropriate User:Bs0dashit

Wynter❄️ 15:17, February 12th 2026


got it! and it's fine, I know how annoying the filters can be Wynter❄️ 15:21, February 12th 2026

Userpage thing problem with like png

Ello! I was making an image for my userpage, but i forgot to title it as my own PNG, what do i do? the image/file is Untitled369 20260418204756.png Caramel ♫Yap space! 21:08 18 April 2026

Why?

Why are you reverting my edits on the Fernsong and Ivypool pages? It is completely relevant, it is about the cats, and there is no way to add a citation because it is not revealed in a book. It is a fact. Can you pls stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Islabean13 (talkcontribs)

How Are Time Skip Deaths Registered?

Hi.

I happen to be making a wiki where the source material has a prequel set generations behind the main series, and since Warriors had something similar (With Dawn of the Clans), I had a question that I thought you could best help me with. If a character is last shown alive in the prequel, but would technically be dead in the present timeline, but they haven't appeared/been mentioned as dead, how would such a death be registered? I assume this kind of thing has happened with Warriors, hence my question.

Thanks!

~wolfburrito95 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfburrito95 (talkcontribs)

Question about character relationship pages?

Hello, I know we can't put info paragraphs without a source but can we add a name on to the roster if we believe that there is a or will be major interaction between the cats?

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